'I told her if it's that important, pay me overtime': Marketing employee refuses to work unpaid overtime, boss tries to guilt-trip him with the “we’re family” approach, he stands up to her, but is abruptly fired days later by HR for "cultural fit issues"

Maybe it's the power that some employers crave, or perhaps they really don't see the issue in many of their unreasonable requests? But demanding an employee repeatedly work overtime without payment is another level of abusing one's power…However, if that employee is courageous enough, he or she might stand up for their rights in the workplace! Just because someone has authority over you, does not mean they always know how to use it…and if this type of unrealistic or unfair expectation becomes a recurring matter, it could be time to start looking at your work environment and truly reconsidering if it's the most beneficial place for you…Because we truly believe that when one feels safe and respected in the workplace, that is when they will produce their best and most efficient work. Because when someone feels as though they have mutual respect with their boss, they want to achieve the company goals for them, too! 

To put it politely, we're not so sure this employee is so on board with helping achieve his boss's goals, especially after her constant manipulation tactics. Attempting to make him work unpaid overtime, she's used every excuse in the book, from We are a family to We value team players…But if he keeps doing his job for free, what's the point in even showing up to the office…because his work is the furthest thing from a charity in which he feels the utmost passion towards. 

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  • After refusing to work overtime for free, and getting into a heated argument with his boss…where he may have mentioned the term ‘exit strategy’, he was both shocked and expectant when he received his letter of termination…but their excuse, utter nonsense! His words may not have always been the most ‘professional,’ yet that was not a reason to fire him….So his boss, together with HR, must have been forced to come up with another one… Yet their choice of labelling him ‘culturally unfit’ left this employee with many unanswered questions…Perhaps he did not think that standing up for his rights at work would lead to such a web of deceitful excuses in an attempt to see him walk out the door. 

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  • Just got fired for refusing to work off the clock. My crime? Not being "family" enough.

    Been at this marketing firm for 8 months. Manager loves the whole "we're a family here" speech whenever she needs free labor.
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  • Last week she asked me to finish a presentation after my shift. I said no. She hit me with "I thought we were a team" and how it's "important for the company." I told her if it's that important, pay me overtime.
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  • She looked genuinely shocked. Said I was being "difficult" and "not a team player." Then the classic boomer line: "when I was your age, I stayed late all the time to prove myself." I replied "that's why you're still here and I'm planning my exit strategy." She went quiet.
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  • Whole week she's been cold as hell. Then Friday comes and HR calls me in. They're "letting me go" for "cultural fit issues." No severance.
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  • No warning. Just out. They can keep their toxic "family." I'm filing for unemployment and never looking back.
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  • Sesoru I would contact the labor board and say you got fired for retaliation and that they are trying to wagetheft workers. That's a huge deal in a lot of states, and messed up.
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  • OP mpete1310 I didn't even think about the retaliation angle but yu're right. They basically admitted it was about me refusing unpaid work. Definitely looking into filing a complaint with the labor board too. Appreciate it.
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  • legoman21790 That "exit strategy" line probably sealed it but honestly worth it. Document everything for your unemployment claim and if you're in a one-party consent state, start recording these conversations. They love firing people for "culture fit" when they really mean "wouldn't work for free."
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  • OP mpete1310 Yeah I knew that line would bite me but I was so done with the fake family BS. Already started documenting everything I can remember and looking into my state's recording laws. They made it pretty clear in the termination meeting it was about me "not being committed" aka not working unpaid. Thanks for the advice.
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  • PersonaNonGrataMea It's always "we're a family" until you ask for some flexibility for an appointment or a family event. Then suddenly it's all about the money and the time.
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  • anarcho- Well. Fuck managers ofc. But objectively if this is the verbatim interactions, you got fired because you insulted her and said you were looking for another job. Which is fine if you didn't care about/need the job. But if you wanted to actually only set boundaries, you could have said you don't work without getting paid.
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  • DungeonMat That "we're a family" line is such a red flag. Real families don't fire you for having boundaries. Good riddance honestly, you dodged a bullet long term.
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  • Demonslugg Families is spelled with lies.
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  • WaterTuna187 You told your boss you were lookir g for a way to quit and are surprised she helped you?
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  • NotTobyFromHR I'm presuming you're hourly or salaried non- exempt. Frankly, as a manager, I hate the "family" stuff. I do believe that people should be compensated for extra work, even if they're exempt. There is value in a good working team. I have one and they're fantastic.
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  • But if an employee tells me they're planning an exit strategy, I'm not wasting any resources or time on them. Especially if they've been around less than a year. If my 10 year veteran team member say he's looking to leave, I'm listening and gonna find what I can do to keep them. But 8 months, nah.
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  • Jonestr 127 Dude, you need to collect tangible evidence. Get people to write their accounting of events down and sign it. You can sue.
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  • Boston-Six I'll let you know how it goes. Past few weeks I have been putting up boundaries for another department trying to push work onto my teams as they absorb more departments voluntarily, because they "aren't the experts" in that piece of the role. My teams are already overloaded and these are not my departments so I say no. So far my boss has been supportive, but we will see how it goes.
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  • Missfantasynerd I hate the "we're a team" bullshit. This isn't intramural soccer this is a job. I'm on team me. Team paying my rent. Team going home and watching bad reality TV.
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  • D-Laz I had been working a job for 5 years and was training a guy fresh out of school. He mentioned that he got a raise because out job code had a minimum payment and he was under that. I asked how much and it was 6¢ less than what I made. I asked for a raise and within a few weeks my manager got together with my supervisor and HR to interview my coworkers on my code of conduct violations. Coworkers didn't say anything and were told to not tell me, which was also against policy. They did end up
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  • TrickEye6408 Might be a law suit here
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